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I'm always happy to see Christians who help clarify that there is nothing in the Bible called the "Pre-tribulation rapture" and who call out the fraud that has been perpetrated on evangelicals in the form of Christian Zionism. I celebrate a call to prayer, a call to repentance, faith in Jesus Christ, and the desire for peace.

We all know that we are facing difficult times. For that reason, yes, we all need to take any reasonable steps that we can, in order to prepare. We all do that in different ways. For some, perhaps, preparing to flee the country will make sense, although I'm no so sure of that in the face of what looks like a coming global conflict. The more important consideration is that we really don't have to worry about extraordinary solutions, because the Bible says, at Proverbs 3:5, "Trust in the Lord with all your heart and do not lean on your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge Him, and He will make your paths straight." This is not just a pair of verses, it has been, in my life, a living reality. God moves mountains to put us where He wants us, when we follow Him. We concern ourselves with the kingdom, and the rest is given to us. What looks like a prudent course of action to us, based on our own analysis, has nothing to do with where we should end up, or where we actually do when we rely on the omniscience of God. I am a servant of Jesus Christ, and my first obligation is to say that I will stand where He puts me - even if that means I am to be a witness as flames engulf my city. My life is no longer my own.

In addition, it is much easier for those who are young to plan solutions - be a prepper, buy acreage, and take other actions that require time, money, and energy. And certainly, there is nothing wrong with that. But what about the elderly, the disabled, those who don't have the money or the strength to do things like that? Will they be disadvantaged? I would suggest that, through faith, they will be protected in a way that is more comprehensive than anything that those who are young and strong can do in their own power. I never see Christian "preppers" remind anyone that God takes care of those who are not strong, and that faith can move mountains more effectively than anything we can do. It important not to cause others to fear if they can't be preppers, or leave the country. Where is that part of the message?

God is not constrained by Fourth Turning Cycles. He has laid out His plans for our world, and He remains sovereign. Even if the rising and setting of the sun is something we observe with undeniable regularity, He remains sovereign over the turning of the earth. How much more does He remain sovereign over the timing of supposed cycles of war and peace? There is nothing in Scripture to suggest such cycles in the eschatological scheme. If they have occurred in the past, it is a lack of faith to suggest that they will govern the will of God in the future. What the Bible tells us is to look for the signs we have been given. That is the only thing a preacher is instructed to preach in this regard.

What do we do to obtain world peace? As your guest rightly states, we will not have world peace. That is not what has been decreed by God. Nowhere does the Bible say that world peace, prior to a new heavens and a new earth, is His objective. The Bible says, "blessed are the peacemakers." So the question is, how do we become peacemakers? It is not by imposing our will on a world that is hostile to God. It is by deciding that, on a personal level, we will not return evil for evil. We commit to overcoming evil with good. We decide that if others are prepared to kill us, although we will give our lives to save the innocent, we will not live by the sword - as so many Christian preppers are preparing to do. The firearms being amassed are astounding. We forfeit the powers of heaven when we prepare to defend ourselves with violence.

How does a nation repent? It doesn't. These messages that have been received by your guest make no sense to me, from a biblical perspective. God does not send prophets out, or people with messages, to say that we can change the course of our nation's trajectory. The nation of Israel was called to repentance when God was Israel's king, before the advent of Christ. Now, we are told "my kingdom is not of this world." God has not "chosen" our nation. He has blessed it, but we are not, politically, God's nation and we cannot apply Old Testament concepts to a New Testament world. Repentance is done on an individual basis. We confess the sins of our nation because we function, and are blessed, in a country that slaps God in His face, and so we recognize His holiness by confessing this nation's sins, rather than skipping happily along as though the insult to God doesn't matter. That is what Daniel did.

We do not fix this world, or the church, by stamping out Zionism, any more than we fix things by putting an end to abortion. That is the fruit of sin, not the source of our problems. The Bible tells us that Jesus Christ, the Son of God, gave His life to pay for our sins, and that there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved. A generic "God" doesn't do it, regardless of how sincere we are in our reverence for Him. Sin requires payment, and that can only be accomplished through the death of Jesus Christ, because we don't have the power to pay for our own sins. We acknowledge our sins, we repent, we count the costs of following Christ and, having done that, we make a decision to follow Christ in obedient faith, as His bondservants. We are buried with Him in baptism - a symbol of death to self, and resurrection to new life in Christ. Like Paul, we say, "I have been crucified with Christ, and it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself up for me." That is a succinct statement of saving faith. We do not attain perfection, but we strive for it, as the Holy Spirit enables us to live a life that is conformed to the character of Jesus Christ. We cannot renew our own nature.

I am wary of anyone who claims to receive visions, or a special calling to warn this nation of impending doom, or to deliver any message other than the one in the Bible. It is the calling of a pastor to point to the Bible, not his own visions. The great commission is to go out and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. (That doesn't mean "nations" are converted, as such - it simply means go to all the OTHER nations - the Gentiles.) The message is that of John the Baptist - repent. The message hasn't changed. The gospel is not a special revelation of impending doom, especially one that places on individuals some sort of burden to convince others to believe, in order to change the course of the fate of our nation. That is not scriptural and can lead to a false salvation - one to save one's hide in the physical world, rather than one that results in a turning from sin.

Some of your guest's interpretation of prophetic events troubles me greatly, because I see no support in Scripture for what he says. I don't argue these points, because the bottom line is that we must be prepared for tribulation. I have commented here, before, about the need for everyone to know what they believe, to know what they are willing to die for. It is not one particular interpretation or the other about eschatological events that troubles me the most, it is giving the impression that God visits some individuals to give them a prophetic calling, with supporting visions, and other supernatural phenomena. Will we be seeing miracles? I see them all the time. But they do not call attention to themselves. To this day, as I continue to investigate claims of special revelation, flashy miracles, and supernatural phenomenon, the only thing they seem to have in common is that they lead people to believe in their own revelation and short-change, if not deny, the revelation of Scripture. Apparent miracles, visions, and the rest of it can come from two different places. That is why we are to test the spirits, and test everything against the teaching of Scripture. The Word of God, inspired by the Holy Spirit, not special revelation, is our roadmap, in a fallen world, to eternal life. It is not superseded, or overridden, or enhanced, by anything.

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Ann Bellingham's avatar

I saw your podcast today on TruNews. I enjoyed it very much. On the podcast it said you were on Substack and rumble. I cannot find you on Rumble. Are you anywhere else besides Substack?

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